Car talk
Then, a few pages later,
Denise Greco raves about the new
Chevrolet Malibu 1LT, and in passing
mentions fuel economy of “22-mpg
city/30-mpg highway.” That’s poor,
especially for a four-cylinder 2.4-liter
equipped small car. Following
that, Leslie Gordon raves about the
2008 Buick Enclave. Leslie doesn’t
even mention that it gets 16-mpg
city and 22-mpg highway.
Yes, the U.S. auto industry has
great engineers and top-flight
workers. I also love the fact automakers
pay good wages and benefits.
But they continue to build gasguzzlers.
Why? Perhaps because
our press continues to rave about
these inefficient dinosaurs.
Where’s your journalistic ethics? Please call these things what they
are: fancy gas wasters and polluters.
Otherwise, soon we won’t have
a U.S. auto industry at all, and you
definitely won’t get any U.S-made
toys to review.
Bob Neidorf
Strictly speaking, the editorial talked
about prices of high-mpg cars in the 1970s, which were firm, and that
dealers at that time wouldn’t deal. But
that doesn’t imply a scarcity so much
as a lack of competition in high-mpg
cars. When Ms. Gordon drove the Enclave,
Buick had not released EPA figures
for mileage. And it’s hard to open
a newspaper or Web browser without
reading about the rising price of gas.
So consumers are likely aware of the trade-offs when they buy a so-called
gas-guzzler. By the way, a recent
Wall Street Journal (June 25) article
talked about cars that are hot sellers.
The 14-mpg Lexus (and Dodge Viper)
saw sales double this year, and the
Toyota Sequoia sales rose 29%. At the
same time, sales of the Honda Fit and
Toyota Scion rose up 64 and 59%, respectively.
Seems like consumers like
choices.
I do not recall seeing much press
on what it really costs to own and
operate the new low-emission vehicles.
My son works as an mechanical
engineer for a small fuel-cell
company and my company is also
peripherally involved in fuel cells,
so the discussion comes up now
and then about the cost of operation.
My son always speaks about
all-electric cars being much more
efficient that internal-combustion
engines and what great fuel economy hybrids get. When I ask what
it costs in terms of dollars per mile
to operate those vehicles, I never
get a straight answer. Of course the
question can be asked based on
fuel cost and amortization, and I
really don’t care how the number is
calculated, but I sure would like to
see some published or projected
costs of operation for each and
every new car either being sold or
planning to be sold.
My son thinks electricity is cheap
and abundant but when I ask what
it costs to charge and operate an
electric car such as the new Tesla
or the proposed Volt, I don’t get
an answer. I think the notion of an
electric commuter car is great, but
based on what I pay for electricity, I
suspect in the end it will cost more
than I pay now to commute the
13 miles I drive each way to work.
As an engineer, I always need to
quantify everything. It seems that there is way too much hand waving
and too little comparable numbers.
Chet Bejtlich
CNW Research compiled overall energy
cost-per-mile figures on all new
cars. Their figures are said to include
not just the cost of operating the vehicle,
but also the cost of developing
and manufacturing the vehicle,
amortized over the expected life of
the vehicle and expressed in overall
cost/mile. When we mentioned this
report (available for free at http://tinyurl.com/mamcw) in an editorial,
we took a lot of heat about it
because by CNW’s calculations, the
overall energy cost/mile of some low
emissions/hybrid vehicles is actually
quite high. Leland Teschler
I am just playing around with my
CAD system on my designs for
the coming electric car. The basic
platform would have batteries that slide out the side, motors in the
wheels, and all-wheel steering so
it can crab for parking. You could
then install or change out a pickup
truck, van, convertible or fourpassenger
body in about 30 minutes.
The center of gravity would
be low for safety. I have more, but
do not want to bore you with the
details. The electric car is coming
and I can’t wait.
Donald D. Jones
Not to rain on your parade, but have
you considered the amount of unsprung
weight in the wheels you’ll
have with motors this way?
An exhibitor at the SAE World
Congress displayed a hybrid military
vehicle which contained wheelhub
motors, big ones, and had to
be sturdy enough to be dropped by
parachute. They admitted to having
a lot of problems that they attributed
to the amount of unsprung weight in their chassis. But they proudly said
that in a run-off against competing
firms, their design was the only one
that didn’t tip over when it live-fired
the 50-caliber machine gun mounted
on top. Leland Teschler
Getting kids interested
Your editorial, “How not to make
engineering appeal to kids“ (April
10, 2008) about trying to get school
children interested in engineering
reminded me of a similar event
years ago at a major telecommunications
corporation. Someone
in HR decided it would be a good
thing to expose kids to a real engineering
environment. So they
made all the arrangements, hired
a couple of buses, picked up about
50 kids at school and brought them
to our buildings. They showed
them the labs, the cubicles, gave
demonstrations, prepared short
videos the grand tour. Halfway through the day, they took the kids
to the cafeteria where they could
order anything they wanted. After
lunch, a couple more short tours
and presentations and it was time
to head home,
But, before the kids left, HR
asked them which one thing they
most liked during their tour. Hands
down, the winner: They liked the
hamburgers best.
Cecil Deisch